so that was our name. and this was supposed together. during the latter part of this vietnam. what. and it was a time when it was still found that russian was not perhaps useful as the ones to pay.the. some of the languages of southeast asia in general,perhaps more interesting. and. a lot of people were working on vietnamese,so we should work on translation in some other language. the language was chosen for us.was. korean. so we worked for a couple of years of writing. transfer rules and so forth that i discovered that hiring some of this is in those days. so is enough korean. to fill the role of a native of the performance was really very difficult. actually,went up. hiring some different players.because the country. i think perhaps a couple of other people that might have filled that role was very many,i think you could find a lot more of them today.then you could do. um. so. from the red corporation 3corporation. have to give up,it was a contract. competing with other people. it became clear to me that. it was going to be a less inviting place to work than it once have been. and i ve got a chance of going to. the university of california. this chair of the computer science department. now,i didn't know if you're like me,and you sort of be. this good fortune to work in research,set of twelve and seventy,calls you up and says,say,would you like to think that the computer sense and say no? don't do it. i did it for two years. running lots of people who love doing,you know.but i mean,i would say say,no,i mean,i didn't do any research and fold two years. i hate it,this business of going to. meetings with the best chance c.l..and so i think her enough money to. keep the cold sweat. and every little thing like this actually became quite good at it.the only way to make it tolerable was to become very good at it. um. one thing the vice chancellor wanted was to make the computer science department,which had hitherto been to be independent,part of the school of engineering. and then i thought,wherever we belong,it wasn't an engineering,i wouldn't mind me,native sciences,psychology,but no,not in engineering that very much. and the rest of the department agreed with me. and so i just. i'm going back with the first chance for academic of this when you put this so much one morning. i went to what was supposed to be a dean's meeting.i wasn't the team,but i wanted the teams reading because we didn't belongs to school,we were still independent,and so i had to go to these meetings,events. other things,and i got there,everybody else.and so the best.i started outside. i ve forgotten what was said,but it was loud and learn and uninterruptible. and so. nine,oh,nine,thirty or whatever.the appointed time was,the. into the room. certain,listen to us. arguing. louder and louder,faster and faster.around two minutes later,they said so that the room again and left us to go on for the rest of the morning. and we never did join me.engineering society is one thing i really successful. beating the urban computer science department. the school. but if you really. um. so when i got a chance of getting out of them by that,got out of it. and the chance came when my old friend. ben and i were sort of offered. um. some colors,joint appointment,because that's one of those phrases that i had here.i mean,that means what it means.but,i mean,we were,we were sort of opposite jobs.saga. at the relatively newly formed zeros. well,the research of the. and so we both something with both hands. it was,in those days,exceedingly exciting place to be. and people have written books about it.and it was a place worthy of having books written about it. it is some mothers thing,most of which the zeros. yeah. slightest idea what to do with. and so did the obvious thing. little. more or less. invented the. the main touch.and then. one day. jobs came through and was looking at the lab.and so this stuff,and he said,well. so if you don't want to. oh,take it. whether we want to do or not. look,good. and i got one over there. so there were various neat people go,the most of some of them,you probably know captain was,is still is still running the. the. danny was there. and terry winograd was the half time. the other half of his time was,well. how the other half he had three loves.is. so we had one of the three has in development,was in the linguistics department. another was in the computer science department. and around that time,the computer science department decided that. this is a really highly competitive field. and the only way they could,the people of the closes they needed was to pay them more than other departments. and so it was decided that they should be left. more about twenty percent more. that may have been paying before. and by sheer coincidence,this coincided with winter greens decisions to move what is up taking english. so this freed up time in computing,linguistics. and that. give them the opportunity that i,another time.this. i am here to tell you that.i got. job. stanford,which i must say,was a wonderful thing that happened.i never thought of,but i didn't have to be ahead of anything. of carefully avoid is ever living.that happened to me ever since.so that was the thing that happened. um. the most interesting character. at. but by far,was going to be a above. it was a man whose name you will see,if people are really that. read any of those books about the place,otherwise you never would not decide this,for me was that she was a manager of mental thought,taylor. for my money,both peter and i just so like,you wouldn't believe. is the only person in my life who was ever actually fired me? and i think,actually have to leave.because he had. he was an absolutely as manager.he had. a set of rules about how research should be. to do things like you must never give people. did you tell them what it is they have to work on because they know more about what they have to work on.then you could have a to tell the wonderful things like that. uh. the butler came from texas,the only drink here i have a great doctor pepper. never touch coffee,but if we,one of his rules was that if you are running a research that you must have in it. a world class coffee machine. most people can,together. discuss anything that we had,a most amazing person machine.and they,one is this one.is this finally given up the replaced by new one? all always been a world first coffee machine. there's nothing else to do. launcher was the head of the. computer science department. and i say,amazing. manager noted tvs whatever segmented,that's part of being managed. so he gave the impression. the field,if you were. if you will,the things were running a democratic manner. so if you were confronted him on this matter,the democratic about with waiting around,i just died running.i use up from about that. this is the democracy. it came from the fact.the wonderful. did you spend half of this time? walking around the lab talking to people,he did not spend it up on the third floor talking to his bosses.you spend a little time as possible doing that. i'm going to have spent at least an hour away. talking one on one,with each person to work for.for. so that. if ever decision has to be made. and he happened to know that everybody was in favor of it. you could take a look. the condition you would consider taking you. you don't know what the outcome was going to be? and so you would do that from time to time.he never showed up in the office of people on the floor,noted about this little bit,never showed up in the office around eleven o'clock every morning. so he did you say,until around you,eleven o'clock at night. but all the people of the cities have been meetings at nine o'clock and a ten o'clock in the morning,and you could never go. because you tennis at that time. every morning. so in the end,he was judged to be unmanageable,had to be gotten rid of. so is the original time. oh,do you like with the third floor? take it up,but this time,what's on the. was the assistant manager? who would actually be the one who would go to all these meetings?i mean,the most manager ecosystem doing is to go to all of these meaning,because that's where they're going to get the next. go. still living a climb the ladder,you are interested in climbing the ladder was interested in running a that you want to run anything bigger than that. are you run it? actually,this superbly year. find me of a. so true,remember that.we. we're going to. um. so you can see.and. so. my own son of what i myself,is to pick out these things that happens in this point in the story.what is the cost to some younger group? when i worked for a while on that,generalize into what is now come to be known as tough person. and we run into what is going to be noticed,active. we were able to get. and replace them by a much freer,so the algorithm steps,instead of the algorithm itself and the race.and if you have some particular reason. for. dude,for trying to find one sort of phrase before another,perhaps because what you had in mind was that you found enough of the phrase that you wanted by. you could simply stop looking for any more delivery,convenient thing to be able to do so.around nineteen sixty four.i did so bloomington,indiana. the association of the machine translation and computational linguistics. on chat person. though i didn't call it think of that name,it was called by somebody called jane robinson. who is the main for innovation to which she was writing. she called it,just posing,and then asked me whether that was all right when it was too late to say no. this. number of other interesting things happened intellectually.well,i was in. i think one of the sort of more colorful stories was about the introduction into computational linguistics of unification. you know what unification is?probably,it is a generalization of pattern matching. in which the pattern. and the thing that is being matched. on an equal footing with one another. that those patterns that can contain variables. and unification is a process in which you try to make those two things the same. by minimally instantiating variables. if you can make the identity,because if you can make identical by doing that,they want you to say you have done is the universe.but this is,the two things are equal.one another. and this particular operation,its first instantiation,goes back to michael robinson. so introduced it for the purposes of logic programming. and together with us,made it a part of. how long the first logic programming language? i was working shortly after that was run.kathleen. for many transition networks. which are not very nice devices.